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Northern Nevada Chapter # 164
NNASIS - Northern Nevada ASIS Chapter
#164
American Society for Industrial
Security
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Physical & Data Security Will Become One Why? Asset Protection major part of job Value of Data Most valuable resource Value of your A/R Value of your customer database Company resources on internet
Company have multiple properties? If so, your access control and video systems may already be internet based. Your IT professionals/techies have control of your systems. Where does your responsibility begin and theirs ends? What about your customer systems? Physical IOUs to your company, investigate if missing
A virtual IOU is an A/R, how do you secure those? What if tampered?
All these questions have to be answered by you as the Security Professional
You can't know everything, but you need to know how to find out and from who to find out. Techies don't know everything and fall further behind every day. How to talk to techies. 2 Rules. Can't Argue w/ Techies Must Argue w/ Techies
Impacts on Security Professionals - Simple, There will be a CSO in your future. Do you want to work for him/her or be him/her Your current CIO won't know much more about data security than you You know more about how it should function. You know about who commits computer fraud, its Rosie or Ted.
HOW DO YOU GET STARTED BEING ONE? Talk to techies - find out your common ground Do they support your security systems? Coffee & donuts. You definitely support them. Secure their access to computers, servers. Build on it. Everything you deal w/ in real world, they deal with in virtual world. Punks testing your security, they have script kiddies testing, hacking their systems. Most of our work is preventative- harden the target stuff - same with them. Our VALUE is after the breach. We deal w/ criminals daily. IT does not. Banks deal w/ hacking - COVER UP Investors, Customers lose faith
Remember the GhostBusters' song "Who Ya Gonna Call?" You Why don't they really report criminal hacking? They don't know anybody in law enforcement! They don't know how to conduct a confidential investigation. Has anyone in here ever met a cop? Conducted a CI? Data Security Techies have to have confidence in YOU to report it to you, ie. They probably should know you first. HOW DO YOU EDUCATE YOURSELF? ASIS Conferences around country Security Management Magazine look at the November issue Cover article "Computer Forensics" Drowning in Data re: network analysis tools Don't Hack Back re: emerg response to IT breaches Linkin Logs to Fraud re: computer fraud investigations Chalk it up to Experience re: ID by wireless hackers
CSO Magazine, The Resource for Security Executives Talk to Techies. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? Know how to do Risk Assessment, Site Surveys, get professional help? With a Risk/Assess in hand, we know how to determine response. No Problem! But what does your CEO want? Total and complete security, w/ no inconvenience to employees or customers, at NO COST. Right? Get real, what the CEO wants is the max. ROSI. Physical or Data. ROSI = (Cost) X (Cost of Breach) X (Probability of Breach) A return of 3:1 is what you need to see. Factoid: 70% of senior IT professionals will do a physical security review this year. Remember do you want to work for or be CSO? Company better off If you are CSO. Look at budgeting, you know how to budget, techies are assigned a miniscule budget because they don't know how to make a business case You can get them visibility, attention, and money! What does the company need from security - Protect assests DATA is M.V.A. Commonalities: Risk Assessment Max Protect/ Min Cost Layered approach to security Observe & Report aka Detect Analyze & Investigate Prosecute We know these things better than they do! They need us to heighten awareness of their issues, to bring focus To their problems & find creative, inexpensive solutions. Techies think differently than the rest of us. They think in black & white, it 0 or 1, its off or on, it works or it doesn't It's all in code. Security is different. We know we can't eliminate risk, we want to mitigate risk, to harden the target. All this being said about taking over Data Security, DON'T have a coup. Revolution is usually NOT a good corporate option. Besides you would scare the hell out of the techies until they get to know you better.
Thanks for listening. Steve Moyer Chief, Corporate Security Sierra Pacific Power Co. (775) 834-5807
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